03.10.2016
One thing we know for sure at the e-Estonia Showroom is that our target is not merely to advertise all the innovative solutions that make Estonia an effective and efficient e-society. Knowledge is based on exchange and, exactly as we try to give our best to all the groups that come and visit our hub, we would also like to get something from them: opinions, considerations, feedbacks. Basically, anything that could help all of us in getting to know other interesting experiences in the field and develop our strategies in an increasingly fruitful way.
eTalks is the space that e-Estonia.com devotes to this goal. A series of short conversation with some of the guests who walk the doors of the Showroom in order to get clues and thoughts useful to know more about each others’ background and interest in getting familiar with the concept of digital society. A sketch-book, in words and ideas.
First guest of our new section is the newly appointed Ambassador of Israel to Finland and Estonia, Mr. Dov Segev-Steinberg. Chatting about cyber security, the e-residency programme and the fashion of cold weather, here is what he told us.
First of all, welcome to the e-Estonia Showroom Mr. Ambassador. We know it is the first time that you are in service in Europe: how does it feel to work in this part of the world?
I have never been allocated in Europe, even if I visited this part of the world many times before. [At the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs] We have a very interesting system in this sense, because we are able to request to be located in a certain position: I requested to be allocated in this part of the world and I think I was very lucky to get it. First of all so because far I’ve been always working in very hot countries, so I wanted to experience also how it feels to live in cold countries and Helsinki, which is basically at the same height as Anchorage, is our northernmost embassy in the world.
But jokes apart, the main reason is the interest I have in the region: politically, economically and culturally. Estonia, particularly, is a very important country. We share many things: we are both small countries – we’re even smaller than you actually, even if with a larger population. Also, we are talking about countries that have very little natural resources, and the only true resource that we have is our brain, that is something you need to use smartly also in order to survive as a country in a pretty tough neighbourhood with a volatile political balance.
Secondly, the interest arises from the development that both countries had in the very last decades: in the 80s, from a mainly agriculture-based country we had a big change and we also decided that high-tech, IT and innovation were the way to go to improve our economy; after all, this is how we became known in the world as “the start-up nation”. Therefore you come here to Estonia and you see what has been done in the last 15 years, getting the opportunity to learn from your experience. It’s definitely interesting to be here, we have excellent relations with the country, a fruitful exchange of visits and of knowledge related to hi-tech and to cyber issues, which are very important in Israel and here as well.
And talking about exchange of visits, you also had a meeting with President Toomas Hendrik Ilves. Impressions about your days in Estonia so far?
The meeting was wonderful. One of the reasons why I’m here at the Showroom is that President Ilves really insisted that every new ambassador that comes to the country has to come and visit this place. I didn’t want to miss this opportunity and before leaving to Helsinki I wanted to come here. I’m very impressed, the lectures were very interesting and enlightening. I knew already a little bit about the policies but this visit was really eye-opening, and again it gives me the feeling that there is much more we could do empowering our cooperation, especially among the younger generations and in terms of boosting research and innovation.
And these two elements are definitely the basis for the implementations of solutions that could actually make people’s lives easier in many ways, everyday. What are the main components of the Estonian way to the digital society that you would find more interesting and useful for the public administration? Also compared to the Israeli experience, eventually.
It’s a very developed field in Israel as well, even if maybe not to that extent. We don’t have the e-residency programme for example, that is a unique case in the world. We just started a programme about biometric IDs and passports, even if there are some controversies about that in Israel, for example on how you protect the data and how you guarantee the security of this data. Cyber security is a very big field of interest for us, and for Estonia as well. But apart from this, it is extremely interesting how through the e-residency programme new companies have been registered in Estonia; it is a very interesting concept and maybe we can learn something from this. Also the banking system and its organisation are interesting for us: you use cards and chips, while we still use codes only.
A few final words before leaving Tallinn and get back to Helsinki?
I always say that four eyes are better than two. The more you exchange, the more you speak to each other, the more you can learn and develop yourself and advance your country. This is an amazing opportunity for me as new envoy to promote especially this field and this side of the relations between our two countries, something that your President is right to be so concerned about (in the best way possible, of course).
Thank you Mr. Ambassador.
From the meeting with CEEMAN, Ambassador Dov Segev-Steinberg (on the left). Photo by: Edmond Mäll.